These are patches designed to improve system responsiveness and interactivity with specific emphasis on the desktop, but suitable to any commodity hardware workload. Apply to 3.5.x: http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/3.0/3.5/3.5-ck1/patch-3.5-ck1.bz2 or http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/3.0/3.5/3.5-ck1/patch-3.5-ck1.lrz Broken out tarball: http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/3.0/3.5/3.5-ck1/3.5-ck1-broken-out.tar.bz2 or http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/3.0/3.5/3.5-ck1/3.5-ck1-broken-out.tar.lrz Discrete patches: http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/3.0/3.5/3.5-ck1/patches/ Latest BFS by itself: http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/3.5.0/3.5-sched-bfs-424.patch Web: http://kernel.kolivas.org Code blog when I feel like it: http://ck-hack.blogspot.com/ This is a resync from 3.4-ck3. However, the broken out tarballs above also include the upgradeable rwlocks patch, and a modification of the global runqueue in BFS to use the urwlocks. These are NOT applied in the -ck1 patch, but can be applied manually at the end of the series as indicated by the series file. It is currently of no demonstrable performance advantage OR detriment in its current state, but is code for future development. Enjoy! お楽しみください -- -ck
A development blog of what Con Kolivas is doing with code at the moment with the emphasis on linux kernel, MuQSS, BFS and -ck.
Thursday, 16 August 2012
3.5-ck1, BFS 424 for linux-3.5
Thanks to those who have been providing interim patches porting BFS to linux 3.5 while I've been busy!
Finally I found some downtime from my current coding contract work to port BFS and -ck to linux 3.5, and here is the announce below:
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Thanks for taking the time to release the new patches!
ReplyDeleteJudging from this post http://ck-hack.blogspot.com/2012/06/upgradeable-rwlocks-and-bfs.html it looks like I can avoid urw-locks.patch since I only have a 4-core cpu, right?
ReplyDeleteIt's just a playground for the moment so I doubt anyone will want to enable it unless they wanted to hack on it or do some testing with it.
ReplyDeleteHi Con,
ReplyDeletevery thanks to keep up with new linux release!
A little question: By diffing old 3.4 bfs-424 with this new one I saw you having done a lot regarding NUMA. This is at virtual level managing multiple cpus?
I have a system: x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo
Is following NUMA .config acceptable, does it make sense?
CONFIG_NUMA=y
# CONFIG_AMD_NUMA is not set
CONFIG_X86_64_ACPI_NUMA=y
# CONFIG_NUMA_EMU is not set
CONFIG_USE_PERCPU_NUMA_NODE_ID=y
CONFIG_ACPI_NUMA=y
Greetings from Germany,
Ralph Ulrich
It's all to keep in sync with mainline, nothing more. I'd suggest you just turn NUMA off.
Deletelinux-3.5.2-bfs-with-NUMA just started, works! Thank you for the suggestion to turn NUMA off. What motivated me at first with NUMA is this help text:
Delete---
CONFIG_NUMA: Enable NUMA (Non Uniform Memory Access) support.
...
For 64-bit this is recommended if the system is Intel Core i7
(or later), AMD Opteron, or EM64T NUMA
---
I think my processor has EM64T. Now I will try a compile session without NUMA config!
Ralph Ulrich
Yeah, linux-3.5.2-bfs-without-NUMA feels like a little performance boost. Although my extra virtualbox modules got an increase in size. I didn't try virtualbox with new Bfs enabled kernel yet.
DeleteRalph Ulrich
--- linux-3.5.orig/kernel/sched/bfs.c
ReplyDelete+++ linux-3.5/kernel/sched/bfs.c
@@ -5977,8 +5977,6 @@ static int __init isolated_cpu_setup(cha
__setup("isolcpus=", isolated_cpu_setup);
-#define SD_NODES_PER_DOMAIN 16
-
static const struct cpumask *cpu_cpu_mask(int cpu)
{
return cpumask_of_node(cpu_to_node(cpu));
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ReplyDeleteThanks CK! As usual, here are the results of my make benchmark on my dual quad machine. CK1 clearly differentiates itself from mainline with n=27 runs doing a `make -j16 bzImage` on v3.5.2.
ReplyDeletehttp://s19.postimage.org/hxdw0papd/big_anova.jpg
Here is a link to my benchmark script:
https://github.com/graysky2/bin/blob/master/bench
Details:
1) It is a non-latency based measure.
2) Compilation benchmark using gcc to “make bzImage” for a preconfigured linux 3.4.4 build.
3) Runs benchmarks 28 times totally to get a decent number of observations for a statistical comparison. In all cases, the first run is omitted leaving an n=27.
4) Results are how many seconds it took to compile on a dual Intel E5620 (2x hyperhreaded quadcore CPUs on a single board) @ 2.40 GHz.
5) Make is run with 16 threads (8 physical cores and 8 HT cores).
Just to correct a mistake I made before at this url:
http://ck-hack.blogspot.com/2012/07/bfs-424-test.html?showComment=1341259994610#c1478189585724857286
I benchmarked mainline against mainline through a mistake of not uncommenting the lines in my script that patch the kernel source with your patchset. So, bfs still reigns supreme. Rock on.
Thanks as always :)
DeleteSorry, I have a question. What is the meaning of 'n=27'? And will the option '-j 16' make any difference to the kernel? It seems that it will not. Thanks in advance.
Delete@kelvin - n=27 means that I repeated the make benchmark 27 times to get a good number of observations on which to basis the statistics. Without a larger set, we cannot say that kernel A is faster than kernel B for example.
DeleteI use a -j16 switch because the machine has 8 physical cores and 8 hyperthreaded cores. It was selected to maximize throughput.
Hope that makes sense.
Repeated same experiment on my new 3770K (hyperthreaded quad @ 4.5 GHz).
Deletehttp://s19.postimage.org/fjwet2d83/3770k.jpg
@graysky
DeleteThanks for your reply. The resolution of the benchmark for your new Ivy Bridge CPU(wow, a great CPU which is quite expensive!) is too low.
It seems that the faster the CPU, the greater the difference between the mainline kernel and ck-patched kernel.
Dunno, seems like radeon driver is broken with 3.5.2 (3.5.1 from openSUSE +inc patch +BFS +BFQ +BFQ-Addon). radeon makes mess instead of working and fills the logs!
ReplyDeleteSo, I cannot talk with you about 3.5.x :-(
But, Con, also from my side: A great "Thank you!" for the new patches!
Manuel Krause
Hi Manuel,
Deletejust today I see there coming two big radeon patches:
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git
All you have to do, after git clone:
ln -s /usr/src/git/stable-queue/queue-3.5 /usr/src/linux/patches
cd /usr/src/linux && quilt push -a
Greetings from Hamburg, Ralph Ulirch
Excuse me:
Deletegit://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/stable-queue.git
Ralph Ulrich
So, the above mentionned setup, just with 3.4.9 instead of 3.5.2 is running fine. (But only 3h of uptime so far.)
DeleteThank you, Ralph! At least for the news that there may be coming something hopefully better for radeon. I have no experience with git so far and don't know if I need to learn in. (Me = being very lazy atm) ;-) Don't mind.
Manuel
BTW. ... I kept/altered some of your recently proposed kernel config settings:
DeleteCONFIG_RCU_BOOST_PRIO=1 <--- giving a "-2" in top
CONFIG_RCU_BOOST_DELAY=440
and left
CONFIG_HZ_1000=y <---------- following Cons advices for interactivity
(Some of your options are not relevant for UP single core systems so: not mentioned, just to be complete.)
Too sad that these parameters including scheduler choice still aren't runtime-configurable.
Seems like with either 3.4.9 or the BFQ-addon patch
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/bfq-iosched/hPe2jFW55Is[1-25]
I do not need to further fiddle with schedtool to fight video/audio playback hickups on my weak old system.
Manuel
Just wondering. Do schedtool still needed with the current bfs version ?
ReplyDeleteSchedtool was never "needed". It is purely an optional feature an works the same on BFS as it always has.
DeleteOf course, never "needed" by design, as Con wrote.
DeleteBut it's still a nice and handy tool to adjust priorities of certain processes within the BFS schema when the kernel / application & combination shows glitches.
E.g., I recently used these two on kernel 3.4.7:
schedtool -R -p 1 -n -10 `pidofproc pulseaudio`
schedtool -I -n -5 `pidofproc Xorg`
These haven't solved the issue of sound stalls with pulseaudio while playing video, but eased them at least (In my subjective scale counting -5 to +5: changed from -5 to -1.)
(And, please, also read the schedtool manpage for detailed understanding.)
Manuel Krause
Hi people
ReplyDelete2 error after fix patch for 3.6.0-rc2
Patch for 3.5 kernel need to fix sched.h lines.
and error in kernel 3.6-rc2 :
First error in sched.h
init/init_task.c:16:32: error: expected expression before 'do'
make[4]: *** [init/init_task.o] Error 1
make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
CC kernel/printk.o
init/main.c:704:2: warning: data definition has no type or storage class [enabled by default]
init/main.c:704:2: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of 'print_scheduler_version' [-Wimplicit-int]
init/main.c:704:2: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype [-Wstrict-prototypes]
init/main.c:704:2: error: conflicting types for 'print_scheduler_version'
In file included from include/linux/cgroup.h:11:0,
from include/linux/perf_event.h:582,
from include/linux/ftrace_event.h:8,
from include/trace/syscall.h:6,
from include/linux/syscalls.h:78,
from init/main.c:16:
include/linux/sched.h:1638:6: note: previous declaration of 'print_scheduler_version' was here
make[4]: *** [init/main.o] Error 1
make[3]: *** [init] Error 2
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
after comment line : void print_scheduler_version(void);
next error :
init/init_task.c:16:32: error: expected expression before 'do'
VDSOSYM arch/x86/vdso/vdso-syms.lds
make[4]: *** [init/init_task.o] Error 1
AS arch/x86/realmode/rmpiggy.o
CC mm/filemap.o
LD arch/x86/vdso/built-in.o
LD arch/x86/realmode/built-in.o
make[3]: *** [init] Error 2
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
CC mm/page_alloc.o
CC mm/page-writeback.o
CC mm/readahead.o
CC kernel/sched/bfs.o
LD arch/x86/built-in.o
CC mm/swap.o
kernel/sched/bfs.c: In function 'cpuset_cpu_active':
kernel/sched/bfs.c:6956:3: error: too few arguments to function 'cpuset_update_active_cpus'
In file included from kernel/sched/bfs.c:56:0:
include/linux/cpuset.h:23:13: note: declared here
kernel/sched/bfs.c: In function 'cpuset_cpu_inactive':
kernel/sched/bfs.c:6968:3: error: too few arguments to function 'cpuset_update_active_cpus'
In file included from kernel/sched/bfs.c:56:0:
include/linux/cpuset.h:23:13: note: declared here
make[5]: *** [kernel/sched/bfs.o] Error 1
make[4]: *** [kernel/sched] Error 2
make[3]: *** [kernel] Error 2
CC mm/truncate.o
best regards
m.
After a few days experience:
ReplyDeletelinux-3.5.2-bfs is the fastest kernel I ever had!
Without any errors nor problems!
With previous releases I had to
CONFIG_RCU_BOOST_PRIO > default one
as a workaround to not get process time overflows with top tool. This error isn't any more!
And thank you CK for advice to disable NUMA!
Ralph Ulrich
ck.kolivas.org is down, Saturday, 8/18/12. I was just about to try the new patch. :( ;)
ReplyDeleteGalen Seaman
I can confirm too that disabling NUMA is beneficial for desktop systems. Just look at the results of the make benchmark that I wrote about earlier in this blog. Here you see the mainline "3.5.2-1-ARCH" vs. two different BFS patched kernels. One has NUMA enabled per the Arch Linux defaults and the other has it disabled:
ReplyDeletehttp://s19.postimage.org/a8mk5gxgz/3770k.jpg
There is a clear and statistically significant difference in compile times (n=28) with the median gain through disabling NUMA being 344 ms. From my research, unless your hardware has >1 PHYSICAL CPUs -- not cores but physical processors -- it is advantageous to disable NUMA as measured by this non-latency endpoint.
Thoughts?
Should have mentioned that the above results on are an Intel 3770K @4.5 GHz running with 8 threads.
DeleteNUMA is about memory in relation to cpu.
Delete- only cpu cache?
- all several physical cpu profit from NUMA?
- why is this NUMA .config enabled for nearly all big distros?
Excellent question, Anon.
DeleteIf all major distros do something because their peer group did it, this is a shameful reason to perpetuate it -- particularly considering the data showing that it is a performance regression for those users with only one physical CPU. In other words, if 99.99999 % of distro users have only one physical CPU (home users/laptop users) and thus are impacted detrimentally by this option, why in the world would we enable the option in the kernel package that benefits the 0.00001 % of users that do? Just because our peer groups do it is no justification that it is a data-driven and sound decision.
I made this very point to the Arch Linux kernel devs in a feature request. Let's see if they agree... https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/31187
Or in other words, "turn this flag off for a kernel that's 0.3% faster on desktops, but massively slower on large machines!"
DeleteThe server hosting ck.kolivas.org was migrated. All the files were lost. I've had to drag out what I could from backups so a lot's missing...
ReplyDeletegithub, gitorious, launchpad, googlecode
Deleteall of them provide professional hosting backup included ...
I prefer bitbucket.org. It offers unlimited space for open source project like a clone kernel git tree.
DeleteHi, ck,
ReplyDeleteAfter I apply bfs for 3.5 last weekend for a machine which I happen to enable some kernel hacking option in kernel config, I got a WARNING and a suspicious RCU usage in dmesg, then I trac back to kernel 3.3 and also tested on other machine, the issue still there, I believe it is a long existed issue. I post the dmesg here and attached one of the kernel config of my machine.
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[ 0.039032] ------------[ cut here ]------------
[ 0.040008] WARNING: at kernel/sched/bfs.c:1063 set_task_cpu+0x7a/0xe0()
[ 0.041003] Modules linked in:
[ 0.042005] Pid: 0, comm: BFS/0 Not tainted 3.5.2+ #44
[ 0.043003] Call Trace:
[ 0.044007] [] warn_slowpath_common+0x6b/0xa0
[ 0.045004] [] warn_slowpath_null+0x15/0x20
[ 0.045906] [] set_task_cpu+0x7a/0xe0
[ 0.046005] [] ? debug_check_no_locks_freed+0x96/0x160
[ 0.047004] [] ? trace_hardirqs_on+0xd/0x10
[ 0.048004] [] ? lockdep_init_map+0x65/0x150
[ 0.049005] [] ? ktime_get_ts+0xa8/0xe0
[ 0.050004] [] sched_fork+0x2d/0x1c0
[ 0.051004] [] copy_process+0x69e/0x12c0
[ 0.052004] [] do_fork+0x5c/0x320
[ 0.053003] [] ? sched_clock_local+0x25/0x90
[ 0.054004] [] ? trace_hardirqs_off+0xd/0x10
[ 0.055003] [] ? local_clock+0x4f/0x60
[ 0.056004] [] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x5d/0x70
[ 0.057004] [] kernel_thread+0x6c/0x70
[ 0.057908] [] ? repair_env_string+0x5b/0x5b
[ 0.058003] [] ? gs_change+0xb/0xb
[ 0.059004] [] ? rcu_scheduler_starting+0x20/0x60
[ 0.060003] [] rest_init+0x21/0x160
[ 0.061003] [] start_kernel+0x2ca/0x2d7
[ 0.062002] [] ? kernel_init+0x198/0x198
[ 0.063002] [] x86_64_start_reservations+0xff/0x104
[ 0.064002] [] x86_64_start_kernel+0xed/0xf4
[ 0.065045] ---[ end trace 778bdcd3ab492196 ]---
[ 0.066142] DMAR: Host address width 36
Delete[ 0.067009] DMAR: DRHD base: 0x000000feb03000 flags: 0x0
[ 0.068016] IOMMU 0: reg_base_addr feb03000 ver 1:0 cap c9008020e30260 ecap 1000
[ 0.069001] DMAR: DRHD base: 0x000000feb01000 flags: 0x0
[ 0.070020] IOMMU 1: reg_base_addr feb01000 ver 1:0 cap c0000020630260 ecap 1000
[ 0.071001] DMAR: DRHD base: 0x000000feb02000 flags: 0x1
[ 0.072014] IOMMU 2: reg_base_addr feb02000 ver 1:0 cap c90080206f0460 ecap 1000
[ 0.073001] DMAR: RMRR base: 0x000000000e0000 end: 0x000000000effff
[ 0.074001] DMAR: RMRR base: 0x000000be000000 end: 0x000000bfffffff
[ 0.076146] ..TIMER: vector=0x30 apic1=0 pin1=2 apic2=-1 pin2=-1
[ 0.087064] CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L9400 @ 1.86GHz stepping 06
[ 0.088992] Performance Events: PEBS fmt0+, 4-deep LBR, Core2 events, Intel PMU driver.
[ 0.089003] ... version: 2
[ 0.089995] ... bit width: 40
[ 0.090994] ... generic registers: 2
[ 0.091995] ... value mask: 000000ffffffffff
[ 0.092994] ... max period: 000000007fffffff
[ 0.093994] ... fixed-purpose events: 3
[ 0.094994] ... event mask: 0000000700000003
[ 0.104000] lockdep: fixing up alternatives.
[ 0.104907] Booting Node 0, Processors #1 Ok.
[ 0.100081] CPU1: Thermal monitoring handled by SMI
[ 0.118028] Brought up 2 CPUs
[ 0.118996] Total of 2 processors activated (7447.89 BogoMIPS).
[ 0.120146]
[ 0.120988] ===============================
[ 0.120988] [ INFO: suspicious RCU usage. ]
[ 0.120988] 3.5.2+ #44 Tainted: G W
[ 0.120988] -------------------------------
[ 0.120988] kernel/sched/bfs.c:7054 suspicious rcu_dereference_check() usage!
[ 0.120988]
[ 0.120988] other info that might help us debug this:
[ 0.120988]
[ 0.120988]
[ 0.120988] rcu_scheduler_active = 1, debug_locks = 1
[ 0.120988] 1 lock held by BFS/0/1:
[ 0.120988] #0: (&grq.lock){-.....}, at: [] sched_init_smp+0xf6/0x286
[ 0.120988]
[ 0.120988] stack backtrace:
[ 0.120988] Pid: 1, comm: BFS/0 Tainted: G W 3.5.2+ #44
[ 0.120988] Call Trace:
[ 0.120988] [] lockdep_rcu_suspicious+0xe5/0x130
[ 0.120988] [] sched_init_smp+0x180/0x286
[ 0.120988] [] kernel_init+0x86/0x198
[ 0.120988] [] ? schedule_tail+0x8c/0x110
[ 0.120988] [] kernel_thread_helper+0x4/0x10
[ 0.120988] [] ? retint_restore_args+0xe/0xe
[ 0.120988] [] ? repair_env_string+0x5b/0x5b
[ 0.120988] [] ? gs_change+0xb/0xb
[ 0.147393] PM: Registering ACPI NVS region [mem 0xb94c0000-0xb94cffff] (65536 bytes)
[ 0.148991] PM: Registering ACPI NVS region [mem 0xbd4df000-0xbd6defff] (2097152 bytes)
[ 0.151014] PM: Registering ACPI NVS region [mem 0xbd9cf000-0xbdacefff] (1048576 bytes)
[ 0.152991] NET: Registered protocol family 16
kernel config @ https://github.com/cchalpha/kernelconfig/blob/master/x200/x200-3.5.2-gc.config
As I look at the code, grp lock seems not been held in do_fork -> copy_process -> sched_fork. I am not familiar with these codes, plz have a check, ck.
DeleteThanks. That does indeed look wrong, but the way the data is locked in bfs it won't lead to a problem. I may correct it next version just so the warning won't happen.
DeleteThanks ck for the quick reply. I forgot to tell that this cause no trouble, at lease from 3.3 to 3.5 on all machines I used, but it should be good to fix such warning.
DeleteThanks for the update. I've been running BFS with 3.5.2 for about 5 days without any problems.
ReplyDeletescriptkernel= kernel linux + 3.5-ck1 BFS + 3.5.0 BFQ + -Ofast CFLAG
ReplyDeletehttp://sourceforge.net/projects/scriptkernel
DeleteJust a notice about systemd:
ReplyDeleteAlthough it is mentioned BFScheduler doesnt work with cgroup, this just means you are unable to manipulate the scheduler using cgroups. But
Systemd plays well with .config having:
CONFIG_CGROUPS=y
# CONFIG_CGROUP_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_CGROUP_FREEZER=y
CONFIG_CGROUP_DEVICE=y
CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR=y
CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR_SWAP=y
CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR_SWAP_ENABLED=y
# CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR_KMEM is not set
# CONFIG_CGROUP_PERF is not set
CONFIG_BLK_CGROUP=y
# CONFIG_DEBUG_BLK_CGROUP is not set
# CONFIG_CFQ_GROUP_IOSCHED is not set
CONFIG_NETFILTER_XT_MATCH_DEVGROUP=m
# CONFIG_NETPRIO_CGROUP is not set
I am just trying systemd-188
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7120752.html#7120752
Ralph Ulrich
Using OpenSuse 12.1 with systemd and zen Kernel (with BFS and BFQ). Was much simpler than your way on gentoo ;)
DeleteNo problem here, my .config differs:
# CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR is not set
# CONFIG_CGROUP_PERF is not set
CONFIG_CGROUP_BFQIO=y
Don't wan't to miss systemd, nice to see how simple you can see the boot time graph for the different deamons. Und how quick you can tweak the boot process. Maybe some time BFS don't work together with systemd (as I read, systemd tries to expand to a kind of super user space deamon, big brother for all tasks, with resource management), but at the moment there is no problem so far.
Btw. On OpenSuse my shutdown time was dramatically reduced with systemd too.
Cu
Mike
@Mike, I am pretty sure
Delete- you run systemd-44 with consolekit
- BFS enabled linux kernel does not affect systemd
My tries are about newest systemd-189 with advanced features. openSUSE-12.2 will not update to newer systemd ...
Ralph Ulrich
@Ralph,
Deleteno, still on 37 with OpenSuse 12.1 ;)
Hope, that OpenSuse Tumbleweed will update to newer systemd, or I must wait another year for OpenSuse 12.3 :D
PS: Nice to see, that systemd evolves so quick, but that is another story, hope that BFS will support it.
@Ralph Ulrich, et al.,
ReplyDeletesome weeks ago you suggested settings for the RCU subsystem. Some of them for non-UP systems (so: not for my machine). Some of them as a workaround for you in those days.
That was:
CONFIG_RCU_BOOST_PRIO=14 (workaround)
CONFIG_RCU_BOOST_DELAY=440
Do you have insights or experience with the last one, to share with us?
I've already googled the world but did not find a clue. This setting does have an important influence on I/O vs. interactivity/responsiveness.
Currently I'm running 3.5.3 with BFS + BFQ +BFQ-Addon @ 1000HZ & CONFIG_RCU_BOOST_DELAY=333. ATM, I can only say that this favours disk I/O a bit with unchanged responsiveness compared to default(500). Worst cases to test with: Writing files to NTFS partitions via ntfs-3g and playing video in parallel; and watchout for stuttering audio/video.
Manuel Krause
Isn't ntfs-3g going a fuse way of IO? I am not sure this is approached with RCU?
DeleteBy the way my settings of RCU_BOOST were a workaround for linux-3.4 kernel. My current linux-3.5.3-bfs works well and without error using default setting!
Ralph Ulrich
Yes, ntfs-3g is working via fuse. But I don't know at all how this corresponds/interacts to/with RCU. Perhaps someone else can explain?
DeleteThanks for your immediate reply! :-))) After reading that, I should try the default settings with next kernel compile again.
Manuel Krause
Please, excuse me for this off-topic posting. But I expect Linux specialists to come back on here that possibly know, on how to help me.
ReplyDeleteIssue: I've upgraded from openSUSE 12.1 to 12.2 3 days ago. With that change I got from gcc 4.6.2 to 4.7.1. But with that I don't get the same kernel compiled in the same way. It does not call the PM resume sequence any more after suspend to disk & later poweron.
If I use the old 3.5.3-BFS kernel compiled with 12.1/4.6.2 everything works fine.
Does someone of you know any clue?
Manuel Krause
Also, the new (4.7.1) kernel cannot keep the timezone any more. The old one does.
DeleteManuel Krause
Weird thing!!! [SOLVED]
DeleteWrong way: I even installed the old gcc 4.6.3 + required libs and recompiled the kernel(s).
Right way: Reinstall the needed package (named "suspend" on openSUSE + packages it depends on)
Possible reason: Uninstalling too much of the plymouth related fancy shiny stuff and systemd.
Shame on me for bothering you all with that!
But also really many thanks for not answering, so I finally achieved to elaborate it @ my own!
Manuel Krause
in case anyone wants to apply BFS 4.24 to 3.6.0-rc5: i made the following patch (without intrinsic knowlegde of the code, so it may not be perfect). It compiles, boots, and has been stable since then, but is otherwise untested. ;)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.filefactory.com/file/4uo5xkecax3x/n/3_6-sched-bfs-424_patch
Have semantics of cpuset_update_active_cpus been changed?
ReplyDelete---- linux-3.5-ck1/kernel/sched/bfs.c
++++ linux-3.6-rc5/kernel/sched/bfs.c
+ switch (action & ~CPU_TASKS_FROZEN) {
+ case CPU_ONLINE:
+ case CPU_DOWN_FAILED:
-+ cpuset_update_active_cpus();
++ cpuset_update_active_cpus(true);
@@ -6952,7 +6952,7 @@
+{
+ switch (action & ~CPU_TASKS_FROZEN) {
+ case CPU_DOWN_PREPARE:
-+ cpuset_update_active_cpus();
++ cpuset_update_active_cpus(false);
Ralph Ulrich
it appears so: a boolean parameter has been added to the function prototype, the semantics of which I have gathered from the comment in the code...
Deletejust for info, I've had an uptime of almost 5 days with 3.6-rc5 and BFS 4.24. :)
A queued fix for coming linux-3.5.5 will break bfs-424 in include/linux/sched.h:
ReplyDeletequeue-3.5/sched-fix-race-in-task-group.patch
Because concerned new code is never to be used with BFScheduler it will be an easey - just reorder patch - fix to do. As Martin above pointed out, beside the change with cpuset_update_active_cpus, this is also the only case to change with linux-3.6-rc. So we wait for a new common ground:
BFS-425
Ralph Ulrich
I tried bfs on a shaved lowjitter 3.5.4 kernel. Chromium makes ubuntu 12.04 unstable with it. Read also http://paradoxuncreated.com/Blog/wordpress/?p=3226
ReplyDeletePeace Be With You.
what do u mean by "unstable"???
DeleteNo experience running on Ubuntu, but running 3.5.4 patched w/ ck1 and running chromium on several different boxes with no stability issues.
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DeleteCK - seems as though upstream changed something in include/linux/sched.h that causes ck1 [bfs] patch to fail:
ReplyDeletepatching file arch/powerpc/platforms/cell/spufs/sched.c
patching file Documentation/scheduler/sched-BFS.txt
patching file Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt
patching file fs/proc/base.c
patching file include/linux/init_task.h
Hunk #1 succeeded at 141 (offset 9 lines).
Hunk #2 succeeded at 269 (offset 10 lines).
patching file include/linux/ioprio.h
patching file include/linux/sched.h
Hunk #3 FAILED at 1240.
Hunk #4 succeeded at 1360 (offset 3 lines).
Hunk #5 succeeded at 1596 (offset 3 lines).
Hunk #6 succeeded at 1671 (offset 3 lines).
Hunk #7 succeeded at 2055 (offset 3 lines).
Hunk #8 succeeded at 2771 (offset 3 lines).
1 out of 8 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file include/linux/sched.h.rej
Any quick fixes?
Ack... meant to include that this is in going from 3.5.4 --> 3.5.5!
DeleteOops...
Deletehttps://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git;a=commit;h=4f83989550ace0aa91464051cbaddc10e1b85778
> Any quick fixes?
Deletedepends on your workflow. I'd apply the vanilla kernel diff to 3.5.4-ck1. This will result in 1 failed hunk in sched.h. I would then manually apply the following (note: garbled whitespace):
--- include/linux/sched.h.3.5.5.broken 2012-10-03 15:06:42.858278393 +0200
+++ include/linux/sched.h 2012-10-03 15:14:50.841213062 +0200
@@ -1265,6 +1265,9 @@
struct sched_entity se;
struct sched_rt_entity rt;
#endif
+#ifdef CONFIG_CGROUP_SCHED
+ struct task_group *sched_task_group;
+#endif
#ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPT_NOTIFIERS
/* list of struct preempt_notifier: */
I verified it compiles, but I haven't installed the kernel yet.
update: the patched 3.5.5-ck1 kernel runs and appears stable.
DeleteResync of sched-bfs-424 with linux-3.5.5
ReplyDeleteFirst apply 3.5-sched-bfs-424.patch on top of linux-3.5.5 although it doesn't apply cleanly. Then apply this patch:
http://www.file-upload.net/download-6651389/resync-sched-bfs-424-with-linux-3.5.5-_sid_.patch.html
Resync of sched-bfs-424 with linux-3.5.5
ReplyDeleteFirst apply 3.5-sched-bfs-424.patch on top of linux-3.5.5 although it doesn't apply cleanly. Then apply this patch:
http://www.file-upload.net/download-6651389/resync-sched-bfs-424-with-linux-3.5.5-_sid_.patch.html
Seems as though the git patch I posted above is the cause of this... thank you for your work, but I don't think in this case, that it is needed.
DeleteLink to patch:
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/31778?getfile=9421
@ _sid_
Deleteno! Steps are:
1. patch-3.5.5 on top of linux-3.5.0 source
2. reverse-patch - you can find here:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=437088#c1
3. apply 3.5-sched-bfs-424.patch
Ralph ULrich
Big discussion about
Deletehttps://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=437088#c3
because Gentoo maintainers are special bound to their upstream. And perhaps the feature to disable BFS as the scheduler ist kind of a flaw ?
Ralph ULrich
@graysky, Ralph:
DeleteMy instructions to create a bfs patched kernel on top of linux-3.5.5 work perfectly here (uptime 1 day). BTW, the kernel created that way is identical to Martin's one.
Unfortunately, BFSv424 ported to 3.6 doesn't compile:
ReplyDelete===
kernel/sched/bfs.c: In function ‘update_rq_clock_task’:
kernel/sched/bfs.c:2290:2: error: implicit declaration of function ‘static_branch’ [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
make[2]: *** [kernel/sched/bfs.o] Помилка 1
make[1]: *** [kernel/sched] Помилка 2
make: *** [kernel] Помилка 2
make: *** Очікування завершення завдань...
===
It seems that replacing static_branch with static_key_false fixes the issue.
DeleteJust wait for CK to post the port :)
DeleteNo need to wait if I can fix it myself ;).
DeleteCome on Ck, bring up a new patch for 3.6. Even BFQ is faster for this kernel relaese!
ReplyDeleteManuel
Sorry, a family tragedy has kept me mostly offline. There will still be some delay before I can sync up with 3.6.
DeleteDon't be sorry ck ! We are !
DeleteTake care of your family, everybody here can wait !
Those who can't are not human => They can't wait but they will and nobody cares.
Wishes for courage and strength !
Eric
Sorry for this difficult time your family is going through. And don't worry, computer software is not THAT important, we can wait.
DeleteYes, take care of your family and best wishes from Hamburg,
DeleteRalph ULrich
Dear Con,
DeleteI'm really sorry. If had known that before, I wouldn't have written this initial posting.
I do not depend on your patchset, but originally and generally, wanted to let you know that we appreciate your ongoing work.
Take your time. My best wishes are with you!
Manuel
kisses and lovies.
DeleteYou raise-max patch seems to be going in the wrong direction for desktop. I have found 90hz to give optimal jitter in OpenGL. Which pretty much translates to a well-running system. You can try my low-jitter kernel here: http://paradoxuncreated.com/Blog/wordpress/?p=2268
ReplyDeletePS: This is not -ck. Cfs gave less jitter i OpenGL. I like cfs granularity also, and have set it to a suitable value.
Peace Be With You.
Therefor servers only use 100hz also: longer periods of uninterrupted tasks,calculating - do need less context switches! All over better performance!
DeleteIf you run a less powered computer or a high demanding task (gaming) you experience this fact!
Ralph Ulrich
Excellent post, Ralph Ulrich. Actually you are the first poster in twenty, that actually understand this. Ofcourse on servers many understand this. On desktop, there seems to be few who understand this, and higher hz, and suboptimal configs are much more common there. (for instance 250hz, no preempt, liek a standard ubuntu kernel - mindless.) It seems to be similar people that argue many services/drivers on windows, and tubeamp/vinyl in audio, or similar things.
DeletePeace Be With You.
I played with kernel 3.6 today and I found that the BFs 424 patch for 3.6-rc5 I posted previously still applies to 3.6. I have also made a ck1 patch available here:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.filefactory.com/file/6wddd3pfr2mf/n/patch-3_6-ck1_bz2
The usual big disclaimer: I have simply adapted the existing coding so that it compiles and runs on 3.6 (posting this from a running 3.6-ck1 kernel). I am not in a position to maintain the actual semantics of the coding. That is Con's prerogative.
Further good news: the BFQ patch for 3.5 applies to 3.6 as well.
scratch the BFQ comment, they have a new patch out anyway... :p
Delete@Martin
DeleteThank you for providing interim patches for us in the meantime!
I want to bug-report that (at least) the latest BFS-only patch you made is not uniprocessor friendly. Only capable of SMP.
What I've found so far is: It's related to the changes you've made in the patch regarding include/linux/shed.h (HUNK 3 @@ -1239,17 +1244,36 @@)
ATM I don't really know how to fix this. Any advices?
Thank you in advance,
Manuel Krause
Appendix: Compiling error output:
CC kernel/sched/bfs.o
kernel/sched/bfs.c: In function ‘task_running’:
kernel/sched/bfs.c:467:10: error: ‘struct task_struct’ has no member named ‘on_cpu’
kernel/sched/bfs.c: In function ‘sched_fork’:
kernel/sched/bfs.c:1742:3: error: ‘struct task_struct’ has no member named ‘on_cpu’
kernel/sched/bfs.c: In function ‘schedule’:
kernel/sched/bfs.c:3314:7: error: ‘struct task_struct’ has no member named ‘on_cpu’
kernel/sched/bfs.c:3315:7: error: ‘struct task_struct’ has no member named ‘on_cpu’
kernel/sched/bfs.c: In function ‘init_idle’:
kernel/sched/bfs.c:5010:6: error: ‘struct task_struct’ has no member named ‘on_cpu’
kernel/sched/bfs.c: In function ‘task_running’:
kernel/sched/bfs.c:468:1: warning: control reaches end of non-void function [-Wreturn-type]
make[2]: *** [kernel/sched/bfs.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [kernel/sched] Error 2
make: *** [kernel] Error 2
hmm. thanks for the feedback. The on_cpu error is easy enough to fix (and, i have to admit, was unnecessarily introduced by myself). However, when testing UP configurations I hit on another problem in the context of urwlocks which I can't get my head around so easily. I'm afraid that one is left to the man himself...
DeleteIn other words: for SMP configurations my previous patch works fine, but for UP I have no real solution yet.
just for the crack of it I have uploaded the corrected versions (with respect to cpu_on), in case someone wants to have a go at the locks for UP.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.filefactory.com/file/4tudaofjq88f/n/3.6-sched-bfs-424.patch
http://www.filefactory.com/file/3epahpsasjwz/n/patch-3.6-ck1.bz2
The patch compiled, but it wont boot.
DeleteI'm using SMP
@Martin:
DeleteThank you for the corrections. And you're right, _my_brain_ wasn't capaple to fix it myself yesterday even if it was such an easy fix.
3h uptime now with my usual workloads un my UP-only machine
@ kernel 3.6.0 + fixed 424 BFS + mm-drop_swap_cache_aggressively.patch + most recent BFQ-v5
I don't want to add confusion - but for correctness - I only replaced the failing patch hunk (as reported) in Martins weeks ago patch with the corrected sequence from his today's patch.
Thank you very much!
Manuel Krause
Thanks for porting the ck patch to 3.6. I'm running just fine with it on my quad core machine. Arifhn, I compiled 3.6.1 with patch-3.6-ck1.bz2 using gcc-4.7.2. What's your kernel config look like?
Delete@Martin - Thanks for working on the unofficial ck1 and bfs patchsets. Filefactory and captha are lame. I would be glad to mirror your patches on http://repo-ck.com which houses the unofficial Arch Linux-CK packages.
Deletehttp://repo-ck.com/PKG_source/testing/unofficial_patchset_from_martin/patch-3.6-ck1.bz2
http://repo-ck.com/PKG_source/testing/unofficial_patchset_from_martin/3.6-sched-bfs-424.patch
...did you know that Oleksandr Natalenko merged your unofficial bfs into his linux-pf patchset? Quite an honor :)
Deletehttp://pf.natalenko.name/
@Martin - Good job with these patches as measured by my standard make benchmark comparing identically configured kernels with and without the patchset.
Deletehttp://s19.postimage.org/u12xbrto3/unofficial_patch_comparison.jpg
Benchmark details:
As you see, the -ck patched kernel clearly differentiates itself from mainline with n=28 runs doing a `make -j8 bzImage` on v3.6.1.
Here is a link to my benchmark script:
https://github.com/graysky2/bin/blob/master/bench
Details:
1) It is a non-latency based measure.
2) Compilation benchmark using gcc to “make bzImage” for a preconfigured linux 3.6.1 build.
3) Runs benchmarks 28 times totally to get a decent number of observations for a statistical comparison.
4) Results are how many seconds it took to compile on a 3370K @ 4.5 GHz.
5) Make is run with 8 threads (4 physical cores and 4 HT cores).
hey grayski,
Deletethx for benchmarking the patch. That's a good indication that nothing got horribly broken. Btw, I am still looking for a benchmark measuring the "desktop fluidity" or -- to translate a word invented by German c't magazine -- the "swoopdicity" of a system. At least that's where I feel the benefits of BFS.
Thanks also for pointing out O. Natalenko's site. cool stuff.
And yes, from my side there is no problem hosting the patches elsewhere. I just used the first file hoster Google would find. It's all in the cloud anyway. ;)
> ...did you know that Oleksandr Natalenko merged your unofficial bfs into his linux-pf patchset? Quite an honor :)
DeleteGuys, stop that. I just merge patches made by other people and *I must* say "thanks" to all of them. Not they to me.
there is a problem
ReplyDeleteinit/init_task.c:16:8: error: unknown field ‘deadline’ specified in initializer
init/init_task.c:16:8: error: unknown field ‘run_list’ specified in initializer
init/init_task.c:16:32: error: ‘struct task_struct’ has no member named ‘run_list’
init/init_task.c:16:32: error: ‘struct task_struct’ has no member named ‘run_list’
init/init_task.c:16:8: error: unknown field ‘time_slice’ specified in initializer
make[2]: *** [init/init_task.o] Errore 1
make[1]: *** [init] Errore 2
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ReplyDelete@Martin - Both of your patches compiles up just fine when I build using a subset of modules; if I build trying to use the official ARCH config files (linked below), my build errors out:
ReplyDeletehttp://pastebin.com/xkmcKysu
Any advice?
https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/config.x86_64?h=packages/linux
hmmm. unfortunately irq time accounting is a bit out of my league. I think we need Con's expertise here.
Delete===
Deletekernel/sched/bfs.c: In function ‘update_rq_clock_task’:
kernel/sched/bfs.c:2394:2: error: implicit declaration of function ‘static_branch’ [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
CC [M] crypto/pcbc.o
make[2]: *** [kernel/sched/bfs.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [kernel/sched] Error 2
make: *** [kernel] Error 2
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
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Please replace static_branch function call with static_key_false function call and have a fun.
@post-factum - Can you please upload the BFS in your patchset broken-out? Did you do this replacement that you suggested?
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DeleteI independently ported 3.5-sched-bfs-424.patch to linux-3.6.1 a few days ago:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.file-upload.net/download-6680793/3.6.1-sched-bfs-424-_sid_.patch.bz2.html
As always, no guarantees.
Your download is missing from the link provided. "Datei existiert nicht!
DeleteDiese Datei wurde vom User oder durch eine Abuse-Meldung gelöscht.
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> @Martin - Both of your patches compiles up just fine when I build
ReplyDelete> using a subset of modules; if I build trying to use the official ARCH
> config files (linked below), my build errors out:
> ...
An update. It seems the build errors ONLY occurs when I build having guest virtualization enabled. If I disable it, I can build the _full set_ of modules just fine using the ck1 patch Martin provided.
[ ] Processor type and features --->Paravirtualized guest support --->
wtf?
one problem after build kernel 3.6.1 with Martin patch system not boot. after remove patch system boot normal.
ReplyDeletem.
Please supply more information!
DeleteDo you receive errors during patch application and/or kernel compilation?
And, when booting, do you receive messages you can provide to us?
With your posting you're leaving us digging in the dust of Mars.
Manuel
Hi
DeleteNo error only black screen after boot loader .
m.
@Micron:
DeleteI use the opensource radeon for my graphics. When going to a new kernel I often have to reboot at least twice.
First reboot may lead to a blank/black/striped screen. But keyboard control is active after 40s. So I usually can login blindly and do the reboot (avoiding disk loss compared to RESET-button).
Please also try the new patches from CK,
Manuel Krause
So, I had been running openSUSE kernel 3.6.1 with my old setup (most recent BFS-only from Martin + mm-drop_swap_cache_aggressively.patch + most recent BFQ, UP-system) for over 2 days of uptime without any problems. {Please keep in mind, that the BFS-patch always needs minor adjustments for openSUSE kernel-sources.}
ReplyDeleteMaybe something like that has hit Micron? (I always watch the patching output before make and compilation output before rebooting^^ !)
Then, I tested the ck1 provided by Martin and it failed compiling after a few minutes. Error output at the end. I then reverted bfs424-grq_urwlocks.patch from Con's broken-out (http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/3.0/3.5/3.5-ck1/patches/) and it compiled fine and is up and running since this afternoon without issues.
Best regards,
Manuel Krause
Error Output:
CC kernel/sched/bfs.o
In file included from kernel/sched/bfs.c:72:0:
include/linux/urwlock.h: In function ‘__urw_write_lock’:
include/linux/urwlock.h:42:2: error: implicit declaration of function ‘arch_write_lock’ [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
include/linux/urwlock.h: In function ‘__urw_write_unlock’:
include/linux/urwlock.h:48:2: error: implicit declaration of function ‘arch_write_unlock’ [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
include/linux/urwlock.h: In function ‘__urw_read_lock’:
include/linux/urwlock.h:54:2: error: implicit declaration of function ‘arch_read_lock’ [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
include/linux/urwlock.h: In function ‘__urw_read_unlock’:
include/linux/urwlock.h:60:2: error: implicit declaration of function ‘arch_read_unlock’ [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
make[2]: *** [kernel/sched/bfs.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [kernel/sched] Error 2
make: *** [kernel] Error 2
Thx Manuel, this is the locks problem I mentioned above. I wasn't aware you could simply revert (or not apply in the first place) bfs424-grq_urwlocks.patch. Thanks for confirming that.
DeleteI have tried now both BFS and CFS, with the most possible low-jitter tweaks. My impression is that on jitter-sensitive applications like Doom 3, they can perform very similar. On additional compatibility layers like wine, who are even more jitter sensitive, BFS jitter-extremes seem higher. Meaning average jitter is lower, but wine has some 1 second jitters, with BFS. CFS has higher average jitter, but no 1 second jitters.
ReplyDeleteBoth tested with high_res_timers off, 90hz timer, and a fast granularity setting for a psychovisual jitter-profile of natural.
Peace Be With You.
After a few days experience:
ReplyDeletelinux-3.5.2-bfs is the fastest kernel I ever had!
Without any errors nor problems!
With previous releases I had to
CONFIG_RCU_BOOST_PRIO > default one
as a workaround to not get process time overflows with top tool. This error isn't any more!